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Do you believe Obama will Change America?

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Cee4 wrote:someone needs to tell me what the point of this new world order is
what do they gain?
and why does it all revolve around america?
far as i can see america cant keep order anywhere.
a muslim world order seems more likely
ok I'll explain what the New world order is and just sum it up.

The New world order is a World joined together under One Government. But the bad thing is, the leaders will be the Private Banks. The whole point of the New world order is to have complete power over the people. Look at the Bail out plan, the stimulas plan. Wheres all the money going? the money that disapears is being used by the private Banks to Buy up everything in the ecnonomy so that onces its back up and running the Banks are in complete control cuz they own everything.

America Isnt owned by the people no more, the constituion in this era is irrelevent. But Who does control America are the private Banks. You think the economy was caused by the CEO's? or the auto industry? No, it was planned out to cause a panic atmousphere in america so that the people will blindly accept any new law.

The people were on a verge of revolution and The American people were fed up with Bush, they were asking questions to the Government, then all of a sudden out of no where they put a Black man in Office, Barack Obama. Now we're all happy? we're all ok with the war? Obama is not a savior hes a puppet for the private banks and its His job to sell america the New world order. And how would he sell us a world of tyranny? Look at the main stream Media, this is the first time they have ever, EVER supported a president so Much. Hes on every magazine, every show, every internet site and he is being promoted as The "Savior". Do not buy into it, its bullshit

And if the people should ever riot then Martial Law will be set in, and onces Martial law is set in for a few years You'll see Obama say "its time for change, we have a new plan. Our plan is to Join all countries together in a New World Order" and at that time we'll be in a deppression, we'll have almost to no money. And we'll blindly accept their New world order and they'll have complete domination over the world.
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the problem with alex jones and his lil satelites like ugly here is their is no clear thought process, you start with everythings a conspiracy and work backwards from that to develop the reasons why it is a conspiracy so the logic if any is flawed and stretched at best
ugly wrote:The New world order is a World joined together under One Government. But the bad thing is, the leaders will be the Private Banks. The whole point of the New world order is to have complete power over the people. Look at the Bail out plan, the stimulas plan. Wheres all the money going? the money that disapears is being used by the private Banks to Buy up everything in the ecnonomy so that onces its back up and running the Banks are in complete control cuz they own everything.


the leaders are the private banks? umm no. any new world order conspiracy revolves around the leaders being the "elites" those with power, money, and influence, entire private entitys being "leaders" is rather preposterous considering they're owned by numerous different individuals and they aren't a single cohesive unit like you're suggesting... and how exactly would the private banks buy up everything in the economy with the unaccounted money? you do know the economy is fucking huge right? you do know that banks actually are going out of business so even if they are looting the treasury its not going to be for that much right? certainly not enough to buy everything in the economy
ugly wrote:America Isnt owned by the people no more, the constituion in this era is irrelevent. But Who does control America are the private Banks. You think the economy was caused by the CEO's? or the auto industry? No, it was planned out to cause a panic atmousphere in america so that the people will blindly accept any new law.
it was planned so americans will blindly accept any new law????? like the stimulus bill that passed by 1 vote? lmao, this is just a variation of the 9/11 conspiracy, get original
ugly wrote:The people were on a verge of revolution and The American people were fed up with Bush, they were asking questions to the Government, then all of a sudden out of no where they put a Black man in Office, Barack Obama. Now we're all happy? we're all ok with the war? Obama is not a savior hes a puppet for the private banks and its His job to sell america the New world order. And how would he sell us a world of tyranny? Look at the main stream Media, this is the first time they have ever, EVER supported a president so Much. Hes on every magazine, every show, every internet site and he is being promoted as The "Savior". Do not buy into it, its bullshit
the verge of revolution? like anarchy overthrowing the government structure? no. apparently you have no short term memory, the people thought bush did a shitty job so they questioned him they didn't question the way government operates, so they choose the other party, the same shit that happened in 1980 & 1992, obama's popularity stems from being the first black president and its already erroding hes not some magical being that controls the media, bill clinton was just as popular in 1992 you just have no sense of history
ugly wrote:And if the people should ever riot then Martial Law will be set in, and onces Martial law is set in for a few years You'll see Obama say "its time for change, we have a new plan. Our plan is to Join all countries together in a New World Order" and at that time we'll be in a deppression, we'll have almost to no money. And we'll blindly accept their New world order and they'll have complete domination over the world.
alex jones has been floating this martial law theory around forever, even back in the clinton administration when their were riots, guess what? it never fucking happened, guess what else? it never fucking will happen, if it was attempted it would be a massive failure soldiers wouldn't follow the orders and their'd be heavy resistance, gangs and hillbilly militias have the same guns as the army and the same dedication
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^you shouldn't have wasted your time man.
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ugly wrote:
Cee4 wrote:someone needs to tell me what the point of this new world order is
what do they gain?
and why does it all revolve around america?
far as i can see america cant keep order anywhere.
a muslim world order seems more likely
ok I'll explain what the New world order is and just sum it up.

The New world order is a World joined together under One Government. But the bad thing is, the leaders will be the Private Banks. The whole point of the New world order is to have complete power over the people. Look at the Bail out plan, the stimulas plan. Wheres all the money going? the money that disapears is being used by the private Banks to Buy up everything in the ecnonomy so that onces its back up and running the Banks are in complete control cuz they own everything.

America Isnt owned by the people no more, the constituion in this era is irrelevent. But Who does control America are the private Banks. You think the economy was caused by the CEO's? or the auto industry? No, it was planned out to cause a panic atmousphere in america so that the people will blindly accept any new law.

The people were on a verge of revolution and The American people were fed up with Bush, they were asking questions to the Government, then all of a sudden out of no where they put a Black man in Office, Barack Obama. Now we're all happy? we're all ok with the war? Obama is not a savior hes a puppet for the private banks and its His job to sell america the New world order. And how would he sell us a world of tyranny? Look at the main stream Media, this is the first time they have ever, EVER supported a president so Much. Hes on every magazine, every show, every internet site and he is being promoted as The "Savior". Do not buy into it, its bullshit

And if the people should ever riot then Martial Law will be set in, and onces Martial law is set in for a few years You'll see Obama say "its time for change, we have a new plan. Our plan is to Join all countries together in a New World Order" and at that time we'll be in a deppression, we'll have almost to no money. And we'll blindly accept their New world order and they'll have complete domination over the world.


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teh boogiemanz r coming!!!
Respect this, specialist, black, testing this and get ya necklace jacked
Your after name scratched up off my guestlist, party freak
You the type of nigga that'll hardly speak unless you spoken to
You throw a cold screw but sober up when I'm approaching you
At the same time we postin two niggaz on that ass
Thats gonna do what they supposed to do the limelight
Snatched away from you because its my night
Killarm' blaze hotter than twilight, you better get ya lines right
Half of these crabs cant even rhyme right
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drunken jesus we all kno u get ur imformation right from the locals news and from people like bill o'riley. Ur conditioned to reject any ideas other than your own buddy
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^LMAO. Your a great judge of character. :/


That last sentence is particularly ironic and hilarious.




Anywho...yo ugly, if you live in Florida (Ft.Lauderdale I think), I know of some cats screening this obama deception thing at some big theater. Not sure if their supplying foil hats, but can defiantly check. ha. Nah but, they really are screening it. Lemme know if you want details.
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yea dude, i really dont even care bout politics, fuck everyone and this fag obama. All I know is once the shit hits the fans Im not gonna be the fucking moron who says "I should have listened" be a smart ass
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ugly wrote:drunken jesus we all kno u get ur imformation right from the locals news and from people like bill o'riley. Ur conditioned to reject any ideas other than your own buddy
you can't even stereotype me right lmaooo

their are two types of people that fall into the category of delusional, those that think everything they're told is the truth (the retarded), & those that think everything they're told is a lie (the insane) both are naive in their assumptions because everything can't be that simple, the world is a complicated place, i'll let you figure out which category you fit in
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Snatched away from you because its my night
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wow, your whole arguement over mine is based on nothing, everything i say either has a source or is just a fact. Your the type of child who Trusts, ok, keyword "Trusts". You trust obama will make america better, you trust that their is no such thing as The New World Order. But at the same time your trust isnt based on fact or belief, its based on the what the media presents you with. And you cant even denigh it cuz you do Trust there is no conspiricy while I KNOW, not think, But Know because of facts shown to me and information with sources to garentie truth, and if your only come back is "SHOW ME, or Prove it" Get your lazy fucking ass off the computer and do independent re-search
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Respect this, specialist, black, testing this and get ya necklace jacked
Your after name scratched up off my guestlist, party freak
You the type of nigga that'll hardly speak unless you spoken to
You throw a cold screw but sober up when I'm approaching you
At the same time we postin two niggaz on that ass
Thats gonna do what they supposed to do the limelight
Snatched away from you because its my night
Killarm' blaze hotter than twilight, you better get ya lines right
Half of these crabs cant even rhyme right
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Breaking News! Alex Jones has a fake interview up with Charlie Sheen and Barack Obama, check it out.

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The breaking news was a fake interview with Charlie Sheen and the president. I'll bet that = a lot of revenue for the website though.
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Yes, the good old Obama...

As far as Alex Jones is concerned...Everything he has said I've done large amounts of research on. I have researched almost all his statements and I have never found anyone one of them to be lie. Some of the shit he does say is eh I guess weird.

I find it amusing how we took out Hussein out and put another one in office.

The worlds trade center was taken out with demolitions. There is no way in hell that jet fuel cannot burn the steel beams inside that WTC. In order the jet fuel to even melt or weaken the steel beams in the WTC's it will have to burn at 1130°C (to even begin to weaken the beams). Jet fuel doesn't even reach that temperature. Jet fuel reaches temperatures of 500-599°F it takes 2500°F-2750°F to melt the steel beams. The plane itself no way could of even taken out any of the steel beams maybe dented them. Those planes are made of aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber, etc.

The world trade center was designed to take punishment like that. It had secondary steel beams encase anything would of that nature would of happened to it. They doubled those steel beams on the bottom floors seeing the world center was an incredibly large building the lower floors would have to be doubled with steel beams to be able to hold the massive weight of a building that high.

It was controlled demolitions. I say that because I have trained with demolitions for 2 years. I had the chance to train with trinitrotoluene (TNT), Composition 4 (composition C), Data sheet, Crater charges, I even got to create my own Frankenstein (my own bomb). I know what Composition 4 is capable of and it has the possibility of cutting steel beams with ease. The way it collapsed downward like that is itself the characteristics of controlled explosions.

If your going to say they found no evidence of any kind of detonation devices dude...They're made out of plastic and rubber with little wires. Things of that nature and that small disintegrate in the heat of an explosion especially with multiple C-4 satchels going at the same time.

As for the N.W.O there coin was shown on the news. Look it up.

The boy/girl scouts just signed a contract with Homeland security.
They're training them in M.O.U.T (military operations in urban terrain). In case any situation of Civil Defense occurs...kids...participating in Civil Defense...really...can you say Hitler youth...Obama even said we need a civilian army equivalent to our armed forces.

Obama is selling the new world order. Shit it's already taking place. He's head of the UN Security Council.

ARTICLE ONE SECTION NINE U.S CONSTITUTION

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Obama did just that with no consent what's so ever.

The Federal Reserve is filled with nothing but crooks. Andrew Jackson Shut them down the first time. Then after he passed they set it up again. He even warned us that the F.Reserve are nothing but a bunch of crooks. Now every time they print money to make up for the bullshit Obama pulls, his bullshit walks in the parks with his wife, and all his ridiculous spending and lending. They had a percentage to every 1 bill they make at the federal reserve.

I can't possibly being to fathom the money WE'RE going to owe to those crooks at the federal reserve 9 trillion in debt already and we're spending more. Obama is sucking US into a debt that we will not be able to pay off ever.

FEMA is a joke...When martial Law kicks in and everyone starts freaking out...FEMA will come and start controlling shit.

It's such a well thought out plan...

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the bread-stuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves." Andrew Jackson 7th U.S President.

I don't believe anything myself unless I have seen it or I am given proof.
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Re: The Obama Deception - No Real Change

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The government is far to inept to do anything of such grand scale.

The 9/11 myths are especially hilarious.
The worlds trade center was taken out with demolitions. There is no way in hell that jet fuel cannot burn the steel beams inside that WTC. In order the jet fuel to even melt or weaken the steel beams in the WTC's it will have to burn at 1130°C (to even begin to weaken the beams). Jet fuel doesn't even reach that temperature. Jet fuel reaches temperatures of 500-599°F it takes 2500°F-2750°F to melt the steel beams. The plane itself no way could of even taken out any of the steel beams maybe dented them. Those planes are made of aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber, etc.

The fuel doesn't have to melt steel beams; the impact of an airliner moving at high speeds into a stationary object causes quite a disastrous amount of impact force which would prove crippling to essentially any tall building to begin with; steel loses almost 50% of its structural strength at temperatures of around 1100°F; you also have to account for combustible material in building, in pockets encountered by the NIST in its fire saftey investigation they found pockets of temperature in excess of 1832° F (see page 6455 of the NIST report, subsection on fire and structure deficiencies), certainly enough to greatly weaken the integrity of steel in the upper levels of the buildings.
The world trade center was designed to take punishment like that. It had secondary steel beams encase anything would of that nature would of happened to it. They doubled those steel beams on the bottom floors seeing the world center was an incredibly large building the lower floors would have to be doubled with steel beams to be able to hold the massive weight of a building that high.
The WTC's structure strength was largely predicated on its large spaced supports along the exterior of the building; a large number of lightweight supports spanned from the central core to the exterior; when the planes hit the building they severely damaged a number of these across several floors, but had not caused enough damage to fell the buildings. From a physics standpoint supports on the lower floor would not do anything to prevent the collapse of the building; once the middle supports were worn out in the area of impact after fires had weakened the structural integrity of the steel supports the enormous weight of almost thirty stories of building falling is not one steel supports designed to hold stationary objects is capable of bearing.
It was controlled demolitions. I say that because I have trained with demolitions for 2 years. I had the chance to train with trinitrotoluene (TNT), Composition 4 (composition C), Data sheet, Crater charges, I even got to create my own Frankenstein (my own bomb). I know what Composition 4 is capable of and it has the possibility of cutting steel beams with ease. The way it collapsed downward like that is itself the characteristics of controlled explosions.
How else would a building collapse, outward? Generally gravity does dictate that objects do fall downward. Appeal to authority fallacies are not convincing.

I do agree though that Obama is essentially the same as Bush; pro-government, pro bailout and pro-war.
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