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I mean seriously, do any of you know what is over used in punches and shit?

yeah....i do...lol....but im not a punchline freak so i dont have a problem wit it...haha

Nor am I, but to say something is creative when its not. I mean what the fuck.

Plus now I have some kid who just joined, 5 posts none of them a written, and acts like he can vote on my battle. Then Kurse closes it saying its over...when its not.

I swear, some of the most ignorant people get on here and act like they're good.

I take back the thing I said, but still. My god, people think its a good punch and its not. Its getting pathetic.

^^Worrd...

There was a huge list of played punches we put together at an old site I was on...I'll see if I can find it...

But any cum lines, da-feet/defeat, beef/cow/cattle (just coz it rhymes with battle), death/deaf, sport with a thesaurus/play with words, pee on the deck/champ-pee-on-ship (championship), scales/weigh with words, Domino nameplays...theres plenty more, but thats all the played ass punches I can list at this time lol...

95% of the site doesn't sadly

i still see "sick" and "ill" lines

changing the wording doesn't make a difference, you're not putting your "own spin" on it, you're using a played concept thats been played to death

its just lack of creativity, and most of these people have a shitty taste in music (thinking garbage mixtape rappers like papoose are good)

if you look at my pieces i use creative concepts i don't make simple references, and i try to make every single line relevant to a person that i'm battling

The idea is if you come up with a good punchline which youve never heard before but everyone else heard it alot then you're in an awkward situation. Happens to me since im new to rap and all.

i Do Lmao.
The Shitty Mettas Ppl Seem 2 Think Makes Them The Shit Like 'Smoked Like a Cigarette'.. Using Different Words For 'Gun' And 'Face' Which Thinker Thought Mentioned Before, Example 'Call Me a Kettle The Way i Put The Heat 2 ur Mug'... it's Not Creative at All. And YES For Domino Nameplays, i Heard Em in Like All My Battles. And im Like 'Ok..' And Ppl Would Be Like 'DAMN' Cuz They Aint Heard The Nameplay Before Lmao

i'll give you a short thorough feedback on your verse in this thread since your battle with solo's over


Fuck off with your simplistic bullshit, light it up and watch you burn to ash
good opening start, the burn to ash part is just filler

You're weak as hell fucker, I destroy you faster than columbian turns to cash
simple play on words, nothing real creative, drugs/cash lines are a tad played

I could beat you with a 50 Cent verse the way you flip to a bitch like Ja rule
another simple comparison, referencing something thats over and done with isn't really gonna hit very hard in a battle

0 5? Got dropped on your ass, now I got your girl 0-7, and a dick covered in ya Ma's Drool
i don't get what you were referencing with the "0 5" its a pretty simple line, nothing creative saying i fucked your girl/mom is the most overused concept in battles

YOUr a damn fool, Organic food has a longer lasting life than your chances at winning
again this is a simple reference, organic food doesn't last long... neither do you, blah blah its just too simple of a concept

2000's Scare holds more ground still than you do at any aspect in dances with Penning (y2k)
old concept, it was 7 years ago, its not gonna be that relevant now, dances with penning ending is really forced

Simply put, go kill yourself or use your Pins to close your mouth with Self Mute-L-Ation
wordplays a tad stretched, not a bad concept though, it just could be wrote alot better

Ha, you're about as useful as antiboitics while using birth control, unwanted furtilization
this isn't worded good at all, its a simple play on words and the ending doesn't have much relevance to the rest of the bar, (it has relevance to the birth control but it just looks like you put that at the end to rhyme, it's just unneccessary)

If you thought you could win, theres a better chance a married man will marry his mistress
really simple reference, theirs no thinking to the line, its just a simple easy to get reference

The fact is a junky showing off his tracks has more potential than your verse to impress.
the junky/tracks line should've been rewarded alot better, you could've actually used wordplay and said "i've seen junky's with more impressive tracks than yours"


overall the verse wasn't solid, it lacked a rhythm and nothing in it was really personal, solo's an easy name to play off of

you have decent concepts you just don't word them right, most of your bars were just real simple references i'll (insert verb) (insert comparison word) (insert reference)

or... you're (insert adjective) (insert comparison word) (insert reference)

you need to be more creative and use wordplay and actually write bars that are hardhitting and relevant to the person you're battling, you could at least use more recent references if you want to continue to write with simplistic lines basically you need to use more creativity when you're writing... your references are strait out, you're (insert verb) than (insert reference), unless you step up your wordplay and start getting creative with punchlines you're going to continue to lose to mediocre verses from people if they have decent wordplay and punchlines

Domino wrote:i Do Lmao.
The Shitty Mettas Ppl Seem 2 Think Makes Them The Shit Like 'Smoked Like a Cigarette'.. Using Different Words For 'Gun' And 'Face' Which Thinker Thought Mentioned Before, Example 'Call Me a Kettle The Way i Put The Heat 2 ur Mug'... it's Not Creative at All. And YES For Domino Nameplays, i Heard Em in Like All My Battles. And im Like 'Ok..' And Ppl Would Be Like 'DAMN' Cuz They Aint Heard The Nameplay Before Lmao

the nameplay isn't the same, you can't downplay a persons verse because they used name play against you that was similar to something you've heard before, cause thats limiting a good bit of personals, anyone that battles alot is going to see wordplay concepts against them that people have used before

now if they use something that someone else on the same site used against you recently thats a different story, but you can't pull bullshit like that and say nobody can use nameplay against you cause you've heard a bunch of it, this is the net nameplay is obviously going to be a big aspect of a persons personals because very few of us no much personal information about others

I see exactly what you're saying Killah, and I like how you broke down my verse. It makes alot of sense when you put it that way. I should of written things different, but I wanted to get done quick. Not trying to make excuses, I just viewed...his bars were less creative than mine. But thats me.

And I really wish some of these people who vote and write here are more simplistic, and thats why I try not to get into more of the deep shit that you do Killah...because the only people that will really read and comment are people like me...16...Comp...and such. Others act like they understand, but are just saying what someone else did.

I gotta thank you for your input here Killah, cause you like usual...you put it bluntly.

I should say man, I respect you more than most people probably do. Again, thank you.

oh and the penning line, I was meaning that in the first place...I just couldn't figure out how to tie it in, so yeah it was forced.

But I liked how I worded it with 'dancing with penning' meaning how he writes with a pen...but, I feel you on it seeming forced...It was how I did it.

ill use played punches everynow and then for filler, i mean its still better than a bland tasteless line,
and it aint like i think im bein clever, i know when its played
like when i battled sequence "swings both ways like saloon doors" etc

im just sayin it aint like somekind of sin to use a played out punch, unless a whole verse is played

No its not, but when people try to make it seem like that line is hot, or good, or just one of the best...or even clever...Its just not. Most people who have written understand this, like what you said Precise, but other people who apparently don't listen to lyrics on cds and don't read other battles, or this is their first experience...come in and think its awsome.