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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:05 am
by 8th
complexity wrote:It's definitely still necessary.
In what way? Its institutionalized racism, under the guise of ending racism. How could that POSSIBLY make sense, to anyone in 2007.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:18 am
by drunken jesus
It makes sense in the same way that their are numerous racist, sexist, gayist, etc. scholarships in the world albeit funded by private individuals but they're still racist, sexist, gayist, or inclusive in one way or another.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:30 am
by complexity
8th wrote:
complexity wrote:It's definitely still necessary.
In what way? Its institutionalized racism, under the guise of ending racism. How could that POSSIBLY make sense, to anyone in 2007.
Oh come on. It's not that simple of an argument.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:35 am
by 8th
complexity wrote:Oh come on. It's not that simple of an argument.

Give me some examples as too when its 'needed' in AMERICA in the year 2007.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:39 am
by 8th
drunken jesus wrote:It makes sense in the same way that their are numerous racist, sexist, gayist, etc. scholarships in the world albeit funded by private individuals but they're still racist, sexist, gayist, or inclusive in one way or another.
You pointed it out yourself. PRIVATE. Its not government institutionalized. There IS a huge difference.


and the whole 'look there ALSO [blank], so that should excuse my [blank]' is not really an argument.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:40 am
by 8th
seriously, examples please.


on a seperate note, plex, you should make the site automerge doubleposts. It really cleans shit up.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:42 am
by Ambiguous Realm
i don't necessarily think being in poverty makes u stupid, intellectuals make plenty of dumb decisions, yet they're still smart when it comes to things like math, science, reading etc. etc.

even the smartest person can be poor, cuz i know plenty of celebrities that r stupid as fuck so judging someone based off their income only makes u that much dumber

being raised in violent drug infested areas will most likely capture u into that type of environment, but there's plenty of people who were raised amongst the crime and use it as a reason to get out so they go to school and work hard, then there's places that r too poor to even go to school so they may lack the intelligence to solve problems but they may be be enlightened in other areas philosophically or watever,

intelligence can refer to many things, and so can stupidity

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:46 am
by complexity
Chris is a black kid with a highschool diploma and no job experience in Maine.
He has a great personality and engages in the interview perfectly.


He is competing for the job against a white male high school drop out.
A great personality but a little less passionate. He does ok in the interview.
His dad coincidentally grew up in the owners same small town. The owner
even mentions how that is pretty cool.

The owner is a 55 year old white male, who doesn't appear racist. He loves hip hop music.

Who gets hired?

Now put that on a larger scale, in schools, etc. Same shit.

I'm not going to sit here and advocate Affirmative Action for the rest of the night. I'm saying, I have seen it in action.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:49 am
by complexity
Good point Ekoms.

Determination and Intelligence are completely different.

Yah. Ok 8th. I'll hook that up.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:50 am
by Ambiguous Realm
that's a good example of y things r the way they r... if racism had no existence.. things would be a lot different

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:58 am
by Momeijah
drunken jesus wrote:gotta give the v tech guy credit though, hes got the record for killing the most people in a school shooting something pissed off white teenagers have tryed and failed at
im Workin On it.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:33 pm
by Kurse
As long as the youth of today continues to let fags like Chris Crocker parade around on the internet in his moms underwear, broadcasting his own show...ofcourse our youth is doomed to stupidity.

I know what'll solve all this.

Let's assasinate Chris Crocker.

Come on...disagree with me that the world won't be a slightly better place without him on the planet!?!?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:47 pm
by RH1NO
dumbest race = nascar

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:01 pm
by Momeijah
RH1NO wrote:dumbest race = nascar
HAHAHA RH1NO JUST OWNED THIS THREAD.

3 Legged Race Ftw.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:01 am
by Cee4
Affirmative action is reality. Just like I knew c4 would vote for Hazard in his battle. THEY HAVE A SIMILAR STYLE


FUCK YOU PLEX LOL! thats the most offensive comment made in this thread