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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:52 pm
by drunken jesus
yeah its "africans"

they're in heavy poverty and having trouble dealing with the aids crisis but again, that doesn't make them stupid it makes them have a huge disadvantage and lack of opportunitys, its a completely different culture, the reason its hard to get a proper education over there is because having a proper education in africa won't really get you anywhere, their society is still in the developmental stages of modernization, its taken hundreds of years for western societys to modernize, and its just started in africa in the 20th century, ALOT of africans don't wanna change and modernize the same way alot of western people didn't want to change, and its foolish to look down on them for not wanting to change otherwise something similar will happen to them that happened to native americans and native austrailians they'll be treated less than human and taken advantage of (they already have to a degree), but really i don't think its too far off with the population expansion, think about it its really a lil too coincidental that the largest undeveloped continent is severely being threatened by aids, the same way that native americans were severely threatened by small pox & other diseases and look what happened to them, in a hundred years or two africans will be basically wiped out and another america like country will form in the same barbaric inhumane way america was formed

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:09 pm
by Viral
drunken jesus wrote:yeah its "africans"

they're in heavy poverty and having trouble dealing with the aids crisis but again, that doesn't make them stupid it makes them have a huge disadvantage and lack of opportunitys, its a completely different culture, the reason its hard to get a proper education over there is because having a proper education in africa won't really get you anywhere, their society is still in the developmental stages of modernization, its taken hundreds of years for western societys to modernize, and its just started in africa in the 20th century, ALOT of africans don't wanna change and modernize the same way alot of western people didn't want to change, and its foolish to look down on them for not wanting to change otherwise something similar will happen to them that happened to native americans and native austrailians they'll be treated less than human and taken advantage of (they already have to a degree), but really i don't think its too far off with the population expansion, think about it its really a lil too coincidental that the largest undeveloped continent is severely being threatened by aids, the same way that native americans were severely threatened by small pox & other diseases and look what happened to them, in a hundred years or two africans will be basically wiped out and another america like country will form in the same barbaric inhumane way america was formed

sadly it wouldnt surprise me if it came to be true

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:54 am
by Sweet Joe
fuckin white people.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:37 am
by Momeijah
Lol @ Ol Boy. Well i Mean a Lot Of African Countries Don't Have The Best Education Etc But u Can Still Be 'Smart' Without Education. Being Smart Just Determines How Well u Learn And How Fast ur Brain Works Etc.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:10 am
by Cee4
why are u making assumptions about me when you dont even know me and then talk about how im making assmptions. u say a crime in my area is someone stealing from a candy store. you dont even know where i stay and you are making assumptions based on the impression of British people you get from the media. So dont try and patronise me by telling me i dont know anything about crime or poverty when ive got friends and family that have been murdered and i myself have been stabbed and the blade was 2 inches from my lung.
this conversation/argument has got me doing my research. i stay in Glasgow and the murder rate here is double that of New York. It has the highest rates of heroin addicts in the western world. It sucks and yeah i know what your saying about opportunitys. The life expectancy in my area of Glasgow is 64 but in another area 5 miles away it is 79. (yeah i love my stats)

You talk a good game. You sound all intelligent when you write your essays but half of it is bullshit. Your telling me that the majority of South Africa was white cause you think that nobody on here will know any different and you wanted to prove me wrong. "Oh i was thinking of some other country" Aye Ok whatever man. Your either a blatant liar or just plain ignorant.

Maybe your right about black people not getting equal opportunities. Why is that? If im the boss of a company and looking to employ someone i would employ the person that would make me the most money regardless of the colour or religion. Then again you live in America and i dont really know about that. I was wrong to talk about America and post those stats on America.

The reason why the situation is not getting better in South Africa is because the government and the black people in power are happy to keep the wealth to themselves. The white people who had power still have power business wise.
The black people in South Africa who are wealthy are basically sellouts. Remember who sold the slaves from Africa to the westerners. Yeah it was black Africans.

Yeah it was probably wrong to say black people were the dumbest. Just less developed for various reasons.
Yeah a lot of shit has been done to black people and most of it is the fault of white people. But i cant stand all this self pity. Oh look what happened with the slaves. Thats in the past. Stay in school, go to college get a job.

People are always trying to blame white people for everything. Take TI for example. I was reading an article on him getting arrested recently and there was all these comments about how it was the white mans fault. Nah its cause he was trying to buy a shitload of big ass guns.

You were also talking about how it takes a long time to build wealth. Thats bullshit. You can diss me all you like but i grew up living off benefits. I left school with virtually no qualifications, went to college and in a couple of years i`ll have a university degree and be earning a good wage.

so you can say what you like. i know you talk a lot of shit even if nobody else does.
what if id of said white or asians were the dumbest? nobody would of said anything. wonder why?

oh and i dont get mad when black people say they are better at things. i admit they are better at sports, rapping..etc. i really dont give a fuck. take near enough any sport a black person is usually the best at it.

oh and they say black people have bigger dicks. thats to make up for their smaller brains (joke dont get mad)

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:31 am
by Sweet Joe
your right...













fuckin' teenagers.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:24 am
by Kurse
This isn't the "what race is more poverty stricken" thread...it's the "dumbest race" race.

(made up entirely of opinions ofcourse)

But I'm gonna have to buy a vowel and say White People. haha

Why!?

Well...who do you see more on the show Cops?

Who do you see more often on America's Dumbest Criminals?

Who was the last Black, Mex or Asian Uni-Bomber you saw on the news?

George Bush.

Nuff said. haha

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:38 am
by Cee4
good point but what about the virginia tech dude. was he not asian.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:47 am
by Viral
Cee4 wrote:good point but what about the virginia tech dude. was he not asian.

that he was...Korean i believe?

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:10 am
by drunken jesus
gotta give the v tech guy credit though, hes got the record for killing the most people in a school shooting something pissed off white teenagers have tryed and failed at

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:41 am
by complexity
"so you can say what you like. i know you talk a lot of shit even if nobody else does.
what if id of said white or asians were the dumbest? nobody would of said anything. wonder why?"

Who are we going to debate with Kurse and Joe who are talking in satire?

Your claim that black people are dumber was obviously a strong opinion you formulated, and were willing to argue.

Granted, you're reexamining your views. I am proud.

And yes Kurse. We are talking about intelligence. The ability to learn like Domino said.

I think a race that has went from segregated to, running for leader of the free world, in under 100 years, have a good ability to learn.

This entire thread is stupid as fuck.

Even if their was a slight difference in the IQ of races, that still doesn't take into consideration, the outside elements that will effect the usage of the IQ.

I.e, a white baby with an IQ of 160 gets dropped on his head.

Now put that effect on the entire human race.

Even the most intelligent people need the ability to exercise it, like Killah was trying to say, and c4 seems to grasp to an extent.


A little bit of misinformation, I'm not to concerned about.

I think both of you raise great points, but Killah gets the advantage because his argument is less superficial.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:48 am
by drunken jesus
Cee4 wrote:why are u making assumptions about me when you dont even know me and then talk about how im making assmptions. u say a crime in my area is someone stealing from a candy store. you dont even know where i stay and you are making assumptions based on the impression of British people you get from the media. So dont try and patronise me by telling me i dont know anything about crime or poverty when ive got friends and family that have been murdered and i myself have been stabbed and the blade was 2 inches from my lung.



no i didn't know where you're from but you do
im from Glasgow City, whats poppin, down here we got blocks-and-streets
you live in Kircaldy north east Scotland, your neighbours are a flock-of-sheep



this conversation/argument has got me doing my research. i stay in Glasgow and the murder rate here is double that of New York. It has the highest rates of heroin addicts in the western world. It sucks and yeah i know what your saying about opportunitys. The life expectancy in my area of Glasgow is 64 but in another area 5 miles away it is 79. (yeah i love my stats)




new yorks murder rate isn't that high, think about it its the most popular city in america wouldn't it be a relatively safe city so tourists and businessmen wouldn't wanna go to another city? you live in a city obviously the life expectancy is alot shorter than the suburbs surrounding it, its the same over here




You talk a good game. You sound all intelligent when you write your essays but half of it is bullshit. Your telling me that the majority of South Africa was white cause you think that nobody on here will know any different and you wanted to prove me wrong. "Oh i was thinking of some other country" Aye Ok whatever man. Your either a blatant liar or just plain ignorant.




half? lets see you picked out one thing i was wrong on, (underlined are the things you say i'm right about, so far its one thing i'm wrong about and nothing i'm right about



Maybe your right about black people not getting equal opportunities. Why is that? If im the boss of a company and looking to employ someone i would employ the person that would make me the most money regardless of the colour or religion. Then again you live in America and i dont really know about that. I was wrong to talk about America and post those stats on America.



yeah that type of racism is why affirmative action exists here and there are laws to ensure everybody has equal opportunities



The reason why the situation is not getting better in South Africa is because the government and the black people in power are happy to keep the wealth to themselves. The white people who had power still have power business wise.
The black people in South Africa who are wealthy are basically sellouts. Remember who sold the slaves from Africa to the westerners. Yeah it was black Africans.




so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, same situation happens over here and even in most developed countries, its alot easier to make money when you have money




Yeah it was probably wrong to say black people were the dumbest. Just less developed for various reasons.
Yeah a lot of shit has been done to black people and most of it is the fault of white people. But i cant stand all this self pity. Oh look what happened with the slaves. Thats in the past. Stay in school, go to college get a job.



nobodys encouraging self pity, i hate that as well, all the organizations for black people exist so that blacks have the same opportunitys that white people do in the same situations, people who don't take advantage of whatever opportunitys they have are foolish as i said before




People are always trying to blame white people for everything. Take TI for example. I was reading an article on him getting arrested recently and there was all these comments about how it was the white mans fault. Nah its cause he was trying to buy a shitload of big ass guns.




it was a stupid comment by a rich black man, so... i guess wealth doesn't = intelligence now does it?



You were also talking about how it takes a long time to build wealth. Thats bullshit. You can diss me all you like but i grew up living off benefits. I left school with virtually no qualifications, went to college and in a couple of years i`ll have a university degree and be earning a good wage.



Uh, you still don't get the fact that their is only so much money to go around in an economy, EVERYBODY CAN"T BE RICH OR EVEN MIDDLE CLASS in an economy that isn't rapidly expanding, even though their are many people that deserve scholarships in similar situations only SOME get them, you talk like everybody can go to college if they want to, its simply not possible, even IF THEY COULD, once they got out there would be a surplus of people in the skilled workforce with more supply than demand and some would have to end up taking jobs below their potential or ones not even dealing with their degree, every economy needs people to work shitty jobs



so you can say what you like. i know you talk a lot of shit even if nobody else does.
what if id of said white or asians were the dumbest? nobody would of said anything. wonder why?




cause theirs no chinaman here and it would be kinda oxymoronic for a white person to say a racist statement against his own race, i mean this is a stupid question and you'll probably agree theres no right answer considering the definition of intelligence is the capacity of thought and reason



oh and i dont get mad when black people say they are better at things. i admit they are better at sports, rapping..etc. i really dont give a fuck. take near enough any sport a black person is usually the best at it.

oh and they say black people have bigger dicks. thats to make up for their smaller brains (joke dont get mad)




haha

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:51 am
by 8th
drunken jesus wrote:yeah that type of racism is why affirmative action exists here and there are laws to ensure everybody has equal opportunities

affirmative action is racism. Its kind of the definition of racism.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:58 am
by drunken jesus
you're right to an extent basically its anti-racism racism, its pivotal for a society transitioning out of racism but once the transition is complete its unneccessary, i have mixed feelings about it but it wouldn't bother me if it stayed or was abandoned(which it will be in the near future)

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:59 am
by complexity
8th wrote:
drunken jesus wrote:yeah that type of racism is why affirmative action exists here and there are laws to ensure everybody has equal opportunities
affirmative action is racism. Its kind of the definition of racism.
Affirmative action is reality. Just like I knew c4 would vote for Hazard in his battle. They have a similar style.

It's definitely still necessary.

Racism isn't always intentional.

Granted, it would be great if we didn't need it at all.

You don't think Affirmative Action contributes to America 8th? Show me a country that has succeeded more without any sort of Affirmative Action? If you can, I'm wrong.

The problem with completely ruling out affirmative action, is to not see the success we have had with it