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Yea I Get Whadd Your Sayin lol Then Whys Wayne
So About Baby? If He Sued Him u Kno Alwayz Collabin Wit Him N Shit like That "stuntin like my daddy" Dis Shit Confuses Me Now Explain

hes been on babys dick forever he's always called himself birdman j.r. but after jay wouldn't sign him he took that as a sign of disrespect or something i guess so he stopped riding his dick and hopped back on babys

i guess since he looks at baby like a father figure he overlooks some of the snake type shit he pulls, theres a reason wayne is the only artist on cash money, juvie left, came back cause baby paid him a huge amount of money, and left again, bg left, mack 10 left ages ago, even mannie fresh left, babys a shitty businessman with all the records cash money has sold over the years he could've been where master p was (before the bankruptcy) but instead he's not even on the map for the ricest dudes in rap

let me clarify a few things since i know a bit of history on wayne.....

ok first of all birdman is no doubt a shitty, shady ass businessman, but since waynes adolescent years birdman has been there for wayne especially after his father died. OK, wayne hasnt done and wont do 70 % of the shit he says he would, but then again thats the majority of rappers, but he has sold rocks, as well as weed, no to mention he got shot at the age of 12 which he continues to brag about..

Now as far as gillies situation...gillie was signed to cash money as a WRITER, although he recorded some songs while on the label, he has never dropped an album...he has also helped or trained lil wayne into the rapper he is today....BUT he admits to have never ghost written for wayne...when he got on tv and said that shit, it was a publicity stunt... okie dokie...

now as far as jay and wayne...wayne in my opinion is better than jay... as a matter of fact i dont really think jay is that good, but ill give u guys my idea on the comparison... wayne is to the south, what jay is to the east... hows that? ok now, jay wanted to sign wayne in the past until universal offered him a more tempting contract...so...obviously jay saw somethin in wayne alot of people couldnt see, and now its coming out...because waynes popularity has recently doubled if not tripled which goes to show there must be something people like about him...

and wayne has never done shit in the streets his own people will tell you that, he's never gotten shot, he shot himself ONCE thats all i can remember, lil wayne looked up to BG as a father figure until BG left cash money cause baby's a snake, then there was no one else to latch onto so wayne latched on to baby, hes not a blood either lmao

jay wanted to sign wayne but baby wouldn't cough up the money, thats a fact

universal is the label that distributes cash money, universal doesn't give any of the independent distribution labels artists money they advance it to the owners of the label universal didn't offer wayne a better deal, baby paid wayne some of the money he owed him and wayne stayed on the label, go read up on interviews if you don't believe me, the ONLY reason wayne said he was better than jay recently is cause jay wouldn't sign him and waynes bitter wayne said that himself

and wayne is not the southern version of jay, nobody is buying lil waynes early albums and saying they're the greatest, lil waynes early albums are AWFUL, and his popularity doubled AFTER gillie helped him, it never came close to tripling lil waynes early albums sold nearly as well as the carter 1 & 2, mainly cause cash money was more popular then, you're a young buck so you wouldn't know these things but back in the day lil wayne was just about as popular when cash money was making hits

if anybodys comparable to jay in the south it's ludacris, hes maintained his success and is regarded among the best by respectable rappers in every region

and gillie wasn't signed to cash money just as a writer he expected to put out an album but he got fucked over just like every other artist on cash money did, gillie got signed cause baby saw his talent and knew he could help out the label, he took over what bg and juvie were doing before they left, writing cash money's hit records, the only difference is gillie got credited and kept all of his publishing which is why hes richer than wayne'll ever be lmao

"Now as far as gillies situation...gillie was signed to cash money as a WRITER, although he recorded some songs while on the label, he has never dropped an album...he has also helped or trained lil wayne into the rapper he is today....BUT he admits to have never ghost written for wayne...when he got on tv and said that shit, it was a publicity stunt... okie dokie... "

They are all but-fucking down there anyway. Gillie was probably like, "but fuck me Wayne and ill go on tv and say I didn't write for you"

Take this in tongue and cheek. Wait. Don't do that. Sick bastards. Uh... I hate em

Birdman Ain't Exactly NOT Rich i Saw His House On MTV Cribs it's Fuckin Huge Lmao

complexity wrote:"Now as far as gillies situation...gillie was signed to cash money as a WRITER, although he recorded some songs while on the label, he has never dropped an album...he has also helped or trained lil wayne into the rapper he is today....BUT he admits to have never ghost written for wayne...when he got on tv and said that shit, it was a publicity stunt... okie dokie... "

They are all but-fucking down there anyway. Gillie was probably like, "but fuck me Wayne and ill go on tv and say I didn't write for you"

Take this in tongue and cheek. Wait. Don't do that. Sick bastards. Uh... I hate em

philly niggas don't get down like that, i think its a down south thing



and domino nobodys saying babys poor, of course he's rich cause he fucked over every artist on his label, but if he was a decent businessman he'd be 10x richer and his label wouldn't be a failure

Lol True That

ok actually now thousands of people say that wayne is the best rapper alive, not the best southern rapper, but thats just them.... you're correct i am a young buck but i dont recall anyone sayin jay was the best rapper alive until he claimed it himself...thats just me....ok now, as far as the gillie publicity stunt, dude went on mtv for the first time got his 10 minutes of fame had to make the best of it.... now listen to that and wayne will explain to you himself the universal,roc, and cash money situation... u might be on top of ur game with the east coast, midwest,west coast, canada,underground, allt aht shit but i just dont think u can see me on this southern knowledge....

nobody says waynes the best rapper alive except for white bitches and stupid southern niggas, WAYNE HIMSELF SAID JAY was the BEST rapper "best rapper alive since the best rapper retired" lmao, nobody respected fucks with wayne, who has he done tracks with in the north? dipset?!? fat joe?!? the 2 biggest jokes outta nyc

gillie said what he did about wayne cause wayne came at him sideways, gillie never even mentioned wayne or baby after he left cash money until wayne came at him sideways on some wack mixtape track

and lmao @ him explaining the situation, hes not gonna say he was going to leave cause baby owed him then he paid him a little bit of what he owed him so he stayed cause jay wasn't going to sign him without wayne or baby paying him a million dollars, once again you don't understand how the business works, universal is the label that distributes cash money they advance some of the production costs but thats about as far as it goes, why else do you think all of cash moneys videos suck dick? they have to pay for them themselves, all universal is responsible for is putting their records in stores

and actually i was wrong with what i said earlier, wayne has never gotten any popular, his first 2 albums went plat, his 3rd album did 900k, and his last 2 only went 1x plat, he hasn't gotten any more popular at all

ookkk, on the decline in record sells that was during the period of every leaving cas money and baby trying to get his shit together....well if im not mistaken wayne did a track with rakim, a remix to d boy, but im 70 % sure it was just a dj mix so that may not count...but ummm you have to understand the rap game is no longer in the north, well the mainstream that is..and i came name plenty of respected niggas in the SOUTH that has fucked with wayne..

the only artists rakim has collabed with in the past 5 years have been kweli, g dep, & jay-z

i'm talking about universally respected rappers not just east coast rappers, nobody in any respected critics top 10 list has worked with wayne (except maybe outkast, andre is funny style as hell though so seeing two bisexuals getting together on a track ain't suprising)

^^ .. True Story ..

alot Of People Be Like "Wayne Got Better Punches & More Complex" .. are U Retarded ??..
Like Jay Has Better Punches .. & Punches On Top Of That .. Wit Multies & Wordplay Tyin` all Together into Like 3 Lines .. Which Makes His Style Very Complex ..
"Well Wayne Can Freestyle Better" .. Jea Fuckin` Right .. Jay Never Picks Up a Pen .. & He Makes Like Whole albums in His Head .. Wayne Can`t Do That ..
i Juss Think Jay is Better .. Way More Complex .. & Rides Tha Beats Better Too .. He Can Story Teller .. & Make Verses That`ll Make U Think alot .. Like U`ll Have to Listen to Tha Songs a Few Times Before U Get a Punch .. Tha`s Way He More Complex ..

Lil Wayne Is Nice In My Opinion ...
lol Thats Jus Me Though I Wayne Is Fire

Jay-Z >> Lil Wayne ..