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Justice is From New Zealand @ Chainsaw.

And Wtf @ Akala Not Being Lyrical, Please Explain That One To Me.

The US Will Always Kick The Shit Out Of The UK Rap-wise Cause A. While Rap's Been Really Popular in The UK For Quite a Few Years Now, it's American Hiphop They Want (Mostly). Not Everyone Likes Grime/Garage/Electro Rap, Sure Those Genres Are Pretty Much Exclusive To The UK Urban Scene But That Doesn't Mean it's The Only Rap UK Citizens Listen To. And The Reason it Hasn't Caught On Quite So Well in The US is The Same Reason That There Was No indie Craze in The US, And That Trance/House Music Has Never Made as Much Of an impact There as it Has Here. Culture Changes From Country To Country.
And B. Like Someone Else Mentioned, The US Has a Much Larger Population Which Makes Finding Diamonds in The Dirt More Likely.

as For Who's Got The Better Rappers. US Rappers Make More Money And Gain More Worldwide Fame, And Because Of The Population Difference There's a Shit Ton More 'Lyrical' Rappers. But Meh, Beauty is in The Eye Of The Beholder.

Ruckus wrote:Alright, I got a chance to check out Akala. He seems alright, but still having a hard time getting used to the accent. I think thats the major reason why UK artists will have a hard time selling in the US. It just sounds... I dunno, funny I guess. It doesn't have that raw swagger that I'm used to. I'm not saying UK artists suck, it'll just be a while before I'm accustomed to the accent and can start appreciating the music more.

thats basically how i feel, i love raw hip hop and the accent of european rappers just makes is so hard to take them seriously, i know that may sound ignorant and close minded but i dont mean it to be that way, its just very hard to get accustomed to, i still respect uk rappers but to be honest i think it will be a long time before americans begin to really appreciate them,

as far as which scene is better, my opinion is biased bc im not really into uk rap

scotch, akala is nice, he is lyrical, actually read my posts fuck sake coz i aint sayin it again, i like akala, the guy is very good, but he isnt the best he is far from it. at what point have i said hes not lyrical fool


so u all cant confuse my argument anymore ima clear this shit up
akala is good yes, but hes not my example of the uk scene, my examples for the US are:
devlin
giggs
kano
for starters peep this shit n get back to me coz im not arguing over akala anymore coz i dont rate him ova cats iv listed and when u hear devlins multis wordplay punches, giggs multis, kano pure flow-hype and lyrics and then there are the rest of the cats iv mentioned and more, then ull get why.


only the other guys are mentioning him id like to point out theyve mentioned no one other than him, y? coz uv blatently got no further than the fucking commercial shit on mtv base, trust me he isnt the best example of uk music so keep bickering with me on this point ur all wrong if u think akala is and that is the bottomline on that point

-- Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:14 pm --

just like to say quick, the arrogance in the last post isnt intentional jus no1 has given any feedback on the artists iv listed
i appreciate evry1 to ther own opinion and apoplogies to an offence taken

'He Lacks Real Depth' 'His Flow isn't Worth a Shout'.

How Does He Lack Real Depth ? And Considering His Flow is Better Than The Majority Of US Rappers' i Don't See Where ur Coming From.

And Since When Was This Thread Just About YOUR Examples Of The UK Scene ? im Not Saying a Thing About Anyone You've Mentioned (And Kano, Skinnyman, Professor Green And Jehst Happen To Be Some Of My Favourite UK Rappers). Sure i Encourage u To Give ur Examples And Opinions, But Other People Are Always Gonna Give Different Ones Too, So Shutup And Deal With it.

firstly its a discussion thread, so i want opinions but the only opinions were that of akala i want yall to see past that and give me some other ones which show the difference between UK and US is alot narrower

deal with it? i have mate i agreed with u all on akala except i feel his flow isnt as good as others, neither are his lyrics now bruv if u do truely listen to kano, jehst, prof green and skinnyman how can u argue with me, face it their lyrics and flow are better, they relese more material more frequently especially kano i.e mixtape mc no1 2008 shows his range of skills.

so wots ur point?

My Point is i Don't Agree With u ? ur Views Are Different From Mine ? Different Strokes For Different Folks Pal if u Don't Understand That Then Why Start a Discussion if u Just Want People To Agree With u ?

ThaOneYouHate wrote:Only Good UK Artist As Far As i'm Concerned From What i've Heard is Akala... And You Didn't Even Mention Him?.. interesting..

thats y i initially argued my point on akala, not to get people to agree with me.

on ur opinion each to ther own man thats fair enuff, but u cant dispute ur list of 4 mcees are better than akala.

i dont know. UK really have some mad artists ,they are really refreshing comparing to all this new U.S bitch fake asses of mc that wave with chains and gats..well imo U.S scene fallin apart.

^^^^
lol at americans always mentioning the queen. we have a prime minister who makes the "presidential" decisions. the queen`s only role now is to bring in tourism money from foreigners (mainly americans) who are actually interested in the royal family lol

anyway i agree most UK rap is wack. we do have dope lyricists but it all sounds kinda cheap and the production aint that great. i would say our lifestyles are generally pretty similar tho. we are both developed countries just everything is bigger in amercia. bigger population, bigger wages, bigger houses, bigger cars and bigger guns...etc

Plus americans havent been exposed to UK slang in the same way...etc so it would be hard to understand what the fuck we are saying. put it this way im not listening to no froggy french rap! (or serbian haha)

toyh am not from uk and am not from us...so my point of view is...eat my dick...
.uk artist wave wit some kind of savage rap style that us forgot...
uk mc are wild they rap fast(most of them) have MAD fast beats and they have murderous slang..i do enjoy listenin michel brothers,demon,terror danjah,roll deep,no lay,durrty goodz,hyper ,d double e,klashnekof etc,etc,etc
and i cant say that i enjoy listenin MM,50cent,faboulose and rest of US main stream...all what us mc have is quantity

I Agree^

-- Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:36 pm --

Mayne I Cant Really Stand The UK Accent Or English Accent To Be More Specific When Rappin I Jus Cant Like It And I Live Right Next To Em We All Just More Used To American Accents Just For The Record My Accent Is Nothin Like The English Accent

Kick It Maestro

LOL we'd Rape The U.K. is this only a comparison

This UK Artist Dope I Dont Like Many but This Guy Does it well


http://www.www.illestlyrics.com/copyrig ... 5ad577ea0/

Lyrics

Why Ain’t I Been Signed?

Hook

Man I been spitting so long
And kicking that vibe
While keeping crowds hyped
Why ain't I been signed?

Verse 1

It's the V Double O
Kick a rhyme any time of the day, grind for the pay, pop like bubbles blow
Kick a ridim like I wanna kill em, hit em with the penicillin that's that double flow
On the grind with a design for lines I can sizzign and drop like rubble yo
I got some troubles though, got no dough and roll solo
No dough means no new promos, no promos means no stageshows
No stageshows means no mo dough, same no dough, means no mo studios
So they cut my lyrics off in the booth like...
And that was a sick line too, but I couldn't pay the studio fees
So I'm stuck on the youtube scene tryna push my beats and make new Gs
Tryna make a buck in the industry's like tryna get a fuck with Alicia Keys
It's just not happening, so I'm stuck with a pad and pen forced to write and rap again
Still be quicker than the kick of a Mercedes
Run up in the club and taking all the pretty ladies
But it don't mean shit, cause I ain't got hits, labels won't touch me like rabies...
So how am I gonna feed my babies, how am I gonna pay my bills
How am I gonna buy the stretch Hummer with the new rims on her and the golden grills
How can I roll into Jacobs and purchase some diamonds with dough on the table?
How can I floss in the party with Gin and Bacardi when I am not able?
How can I live in a home with a Butler, 4 bedrooms and windows that gleam?
And how can I take a trip out to the Florida Quays when I ain't got the green?
So I spit for the A and R people, V Double running the UK no equals
Cause you'll never see the day when my tracks disappoint my fans like the Matrix sequels
That's why I had to write this flow, kick a lyric cold to degrees below
Cause you're gonna see the day when the TVs show
V D D O yup V O O

Hook

Verse 2

It's the one known as V
In the game like a soccer league, clever like Socrates and there ain't no stopping me
From the second I jump on a rhythm I kill em and that's just the way that it be
Spit bars till the verses freeze, cause you'll never hurt me like Hercules
Hit hard on tracks like car crashes bashing the track apart
Spit quick on music to bruise it, that's just my rapping art
Bump rap with Jo cause we're colder than freeze and chillin em
Next episode of the show is where we be killing em
Take a rhythm and I'm breaking it to molecules
Send any motherfucker hating to the medicals
The rap game would be sure to feel pain if you tore Double out of it
Just like hair follicles
So I'm gonna drop a lyric on the paper
For anybody tryna stop me like a hater
And anybody tryna ruin my career I'll just make you disappear like water vapour
So I'll just spit raps faster, make all my rhymes hit harder
Give all my tracks more drama, make all females go gaa gaa
Just gimme a pen and a line I can sign and I'll give you my rhymes in a contract
Gimme somewhere to spit and I'm on that, Don't tell me you wouldn't be on that

Hook

Bridge

Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep yep, Double O
Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep, V Double O
Yep yep yep yep, Double O

Hook

ToyH you are MAGARAC,.....thats all i can add to this discusion