DQ me for swaying, I dont give a fuck

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DQ me for swaying, I dont give a fuck

Post by Omega Bill »

House Rules( No flippin, no feeding, no biting, no free posting, no swaying. Cats: Punches, Personals, Flow)

Flow - Bill
Personals - Bill
Punches - Quix

Personals: Bill (easily)
Punches: Bill ( Quix had good nameplay, bill hit harder with personals)
Flow:Quix (another easy cat)

Punches: Tie
Personals: Bill
Flow: Tie

Punches: Bill
Personals: Bill
Flow: Tied

Personals: Bill
Punches: Tie
Flow: Tie

Good thing you got multies and got the votes right? Bunk mother fuckers.

2 people gave me the battle. Their wins combined = 78. 3 out of the 4 peoples records combined = 5 wins. ALL 5 FROM ONE FUCKING GUY.

But hey, these dudes know a battle verse when they see it right?

I don't ever bitch about votes anymore. But when you winning battles on fucking multies and damn near multies only? GET THE FUCK OUT!

Get rid of personals and punches as a cat. We don't need 'em anymore. All we need to do is connect 3 words (even if those 3 words in conjunction don't make sense, "HOTTEST STARS MORE") and you win the battle.

"Bill mos def handled Quix on the personals"

Too bad personals don't win you battles. Everyone grab a sleeping bag, because Illest has turned into a fucking pillow fight.

Out. I'll be back when people stop handing wins out on multies. Advice: Stick to the text shit. See how far just multies get you face to face with people seein it spit.
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I was going to make a thread about this a few weeks ago..but then i thought you guys wouldn't care. If the cats are "Punches/Flow/Personals" and you vote for the other person for using nameplay, I don't want the vote! It's like, how retarded can you get? The cats specifically fucking show you how to vote! I hate it when people sometimes DONT even use the cats listed from the battlers, and just do a bar break down to make their vote seem legit.

I didn't want to sound like I'm complaining when i almost posted this (Weeks ago), so i erased every thing before i hit "Submit". But if you staff members would like, I'd agree on being more strict in the voting.
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Out. I'll be back when people stop handing wins out on multies. Advice: Stick to the text shit. See how far just multies get you face to face with people seein it spit.
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awww, this is cute!! catching feelings from a text battle!

its funny how you don't think nameplay, wordplay, and multies are important in a text battle/verse. anyways, protest all you want we both know who took that battle ;)
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I don't see how Flow is even a category in a text battle... nobody follows a standard audio verse structure, everyone uses them stretched ass bars. Multies are nothing more than an accessory in a battle. Makes it look/sound pretty when read. Its all about punches and nameplay. Now if the punches/nameplay were a tie, then I could see Multies being the deciding factor. But if the dude took the personals/punches/nameplay categories, there's no way in hell the other person should win unless its a topical battle. I'm not even referring to Bill's example here, I'm just speaking generalities. Punches win battles. In a boxing match, the boxers don't get points for how pretty their punches look or how fancy their footwork and trunks look.

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Quix wrote:awww, this is cute!! catching feelings from a text battle!

its funny how you don't think nameplay, wordplay, and multies are important in a text battle/verse. anyways, protest all you want we both know who took that battle ;)
You're right. The 2 most important categories out of 3 went to me in every vote but one. It was obvious who won the battle.

Soon as it's closed it's going under Validity Examination so it's not like I'mma catch feelings when it won't affect my record when it's over-turned for bunk voting anyways.
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I missed that the only categories that counted were punches, personals and flow. Since multies and wordplay don't count I guess I would have to change my vote to Bill.

I'll be honest though, when multies stop counting then where do you draw the line on how much rap skill it actually takes to battle. If you only need to rhyme the last words of each line it starts to become indistinguishable from random insults.

And I have to disagree with Ruckus. Just because the verses aren't structured for audio doesn't mean they can't have a flow. Most often I find that the definition of a bar is usually just changed. One line of a text battle is sometimes two bars of an audio verse. But the placement of the rhyming words amidst the syllables can effect the flow. Regardless of what a "line" refers to.

I'd also like to add that picking and choosing what categories are acceptable for consideration is kind of ridiculous. I mean, I could have a battle and say that the only category to be considered for votes is flow. Then have no punches or anything. Whatever. I wouldn't say it's obvious who won the battle. I'd say its obvious who won the categories which you deemed acceptable to vote upon.
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"I'll be honest though, when multies stop counting then where do you draw the line on how much rap skill it actually takes to battle. If you only need to rhyme the last words of each line it starts to become indistinguishable from random insults."


Multies distinguish flow. Multies/Flow used to be the same category and voted on as such. Talking about rap skill, if a multie is used, JUST to keep the flow going with filler, how would you rate that? I do it myself sometimes, but what exactly does "Hottest Stars More" actually mean?

"I'd also like to add that picking and choosing what categories are acceptable for consideration is kind of ridiculous."

House rules were stated in the first post. House Rules Categories are Punches, Personals and Flow. There was no "picking and choosing" there. It's no battlers fault if the voters don't read the battle rules.

"I wouldn't say it's obvious who won the battle. I'd say its obvious who won the categories which you deemed acceptable to vote upon."

Here we are again. If you'd like me to copy the link to the battle rules, I'll be more than happy to.

I'll also add this...since when are multies MORE important in a battle verse than punches and personals? You can rhyme up to 4 syllables consistently, but if at the end of the rhyme scheme there's not a good punch, or a personal, then what exactly about it is a battle verse?

Wordplay/Nameplay/Punches all go hand in hand, if you think about it. Again, if someone has some really great Wordplay, but the punch is lacking, where's the substance in it? You can throw out a ton of plays on different words in a bar, but does that mean the battle is won?

As Ruckus said, punches win battles. It doesn't matter how fancy your punches look or how much dazzle you put on them.

If you believe that the use of Wordplay and Nameplay leading up to his punches, made his punches hit harder than mine, THEN GIVE HIM PUNCHES. If the use of Wordplay/Nameplay STILL didn't give him the upper hand in whose punches hit harder than what the fuck are you voting on in a battle verse? That's what I'm getting at. You can put diamonds on shit but it's still a piece of shit (not saying his verse was shit).

I'll state it again. Battle someone face to face, I have. Go ahead and consistently spit out rhymes of 4 syllables and see if you win the battle if there's nothing backing it up.
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At the end of the day.

Them votes aren't on multis as much as just who they thought won the battle. You can't compare real life battles because in real life, you don't have to justify your vote, and people get screwed over popularity.

I can write a great personal verse but if it doesn't have multis and punches and intricacy than it could be completely terrible.

I understand where you're going with this issue. But I think you're projecting your anger in the wrong areas. People aren't voting all on multis, they are voting for who they think WON the BATTLE. And with so few categories to vote on, it looks as if they are voting only on multis.

I completely disagree with Ruckus too. Flow can be accounted for in a battle even with stretched lines.

If you want I can go back and find dozens of battles where people had great punches and garbage flow. If multis didn't matter at all then we'd all just write with arcane schemes and syllables that didn't match.

Another discouraging thread.

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all this bullshit coming from the guy who quoted my "Sig" (for lack of a better expresion) for a Punch?? what the fuck was that???? I may as well found the best bar you ever spit and threw that in our battle against you. Yourexactly right Bill, about people not spitting 4 sylables rhymes face to face .... but we're not face to face .... We're texting. tooo bad you couldn't take a pill or needle to make your brain bigger, cu z i would buy it for you dude. Thats my word lol!! and Dog, why the fuck you catching so many feelings??? you didn't really think you were better than me ... did you??



anyways ... nothing personal...fuck net beef!
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complexity wrote:At the end of the day.

Them votes aren't on multis as much as just who they thought won the battle. You can't compare real life battles because in real life, you don't have to justify your vote, and people get screwed over popularity.

I can write a great personal verse but if it doesn't have multis and punches and intricacy than it could be completely terrible.

I understand where you're going with this issue. But I think you're projecting your anger in the wrong areas. People aren't voting all on multis, they are voting for who they think WON the BATTLE. And with so few categories to vote on, it looks as if they are voting only on multis.

I completely disagree with Ruckus too. Flow can be accounted for in a battle even with stretched lines.

If you want I can go back and find dozens of battles where people had great punches and garbage flow. If multis didn't matter at all then we'd all just write with arcane schemes and syllables that didn't match.

Another discouraging thread.
while i feel conflicted in discouraging billdos mania i'll have to agree with this

i've been saying something similar for awhile whenever an issue of voting comes up people read both verses decide a winner then manipulate the categories to justify who won they don't really matter in the end most are redundant anyway and some don't even make sense (ex metaphors they may be used randomly but they're hardly an impactful category in a text battle when their mainly used in writing for imagery and thats rarely present in a text battle)

punches win battles how well they're structured with rhymes and wording plays a part in the quality of the punch but the focal point is still punchlines people can slack in that aspect and get by if the votings mediocre or unfair but in my experience the guy with the better punches wins a battle 95% of the time

going on a tangent about voting is rather pointless billy if you think you unfairly lost just say that attacking the system is pointless when its rarely uniform or strictly adhered to imo the fairest most logical way is voting like kau does bar by bar but thats rather time consuming so its understandable why its not widespread or the rule for a forum that has issues of lax in activity
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